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| # ? Dec 20, 2019 19:22 |
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I brought this up in the discord but imo we should probs have an anonymous mod account to play bad cop, at least until the biggest problem are beaten down or driven off.
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| # ? Dec 20, 2019 19:55 |
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graph posted:something needs to be taken away. flags or sigs or both. of course it's their identity, that's why it'll sting I'm not so much thinking punishment as I am that the flags are an upload vector nobody but maybe Jeffrey has ability to act on and has been used to spam Simpsons child porn before when someone got butthurt.
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| # ? Dec 20, 2019 20:32 |
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fool of sound posted:I brought this up in the discord but imo we should probs have an anonymous mod account to play bad cop, at least until the biggest problem are beaten down or driven off. Maybe use the robot? It's basically anonymous and as an admin account it should be able to do whatever the fuck. I don't know how eager the powers that be are to pass the keys to Mr. Roboto around though. Maybe just a FYAD-specific version of the QCS account.
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| # ? Dec 20, 2019 20:35 |
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I still think that if helldumping was something deemed to be toxic to the forums as a whole (and I agree with that notion), then digging into someone's post history to mock them should be off limits for the same reason. I get that FYAD is the mean and gross picture forum, but part of the point of this discussion is how to not let the mean part be damaging to the forums culture as a whole. If you want to mock people for making bad posts, I'm not a fan but fine go ahead, but don't dig up shit from more than a month ago imo.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 10:10 |
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alnilam posted:If you want to mock people for making bad posts, I'm not a fan but fine go ahead, but don't dig up shit from more than a month ago imo. Yeah this is where I’m at.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 10:13 |
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fool of sound posted:I brought this up in the discord but imo we should probs have an anonymous mod account to play bad cop, at least until the biggest problem are beaten down or driven off. Please call it "Good Cop FYAD Cop"
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 10:28 |
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forums poster manuel calvera posts in fyad, or for that matter posts something stupid in another forum, and someone in fyad mentions "lol this is the same guy who posted about his diaper fetish and how to make fake diaper poop with warm oatmeal" *posts quote from 2013* Sorry! The FYAD mod has specified that this quote has exceeded the one month statute of limitations. get real
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 13:46 |
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Ralp posted:forums poster manuel calvera posts in fyad, or for that matter posts something stupid in another forum, and someone in fyad mentions "lol this is the same guy who posted about his diaper fetish and how to make fake diaper poop with warm oatmeal" *posts quote from 2013* Sorry! The FYAD mod has specified that this quote has exceeded the one month statute of limitations. get real I wish I could gas a thread, from my mind.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 13:51 |
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Ralp posted:forums poster manuel calvera posts in fyad, or for that matter posts something stupid in another forum, and someone in fyad mentions "lol this is the same guy who posted about his diaper fetish and how to make fake diaper poop with warm oatmeal" *posts quote from 2013* Sorry! The FYAD mod has specified that this quote has exceeded the one month statute of limitations. get real It’s not so much the specific cut date as ‘don’t harass posters/threads forever’.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 13:56 |
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Yeah I think it would be a shame if that guy felt like he couldn't post about star wars in the movie forum without being harangued over ancient posts, but at the same time, people have long histories here and it isn't a crime to remember. That's what I'm getting at with the forums invasion thing, but enforcement in that case would have to come from the movie forum mod. I'm not about to institute mandatory minimums for remembering old posts that people have made.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 14:02 |
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so I don't forget. these were the IK rules for some years, I don't have anything to say about them right now though because I imagine iks won't make sense until new fyad stabilizes. but for the record
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 14:15 |
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Ralp posted:so I don't forget. these were the IK rules for some years, I don't have anything to say about them right now though because I imagine iks won't make sense until new fyad stabilizes. but for the record
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 14:20 |
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Ralp posted:so I don't forget. these were the IK rules for some years, I don't have anything to say about them right now though because I imagine iks won't make sense until new fyad stabilizes. but for the record These are good. I'd maybe add in there not to spring their friends from longer probes by giving them 6ers.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 15:34 |
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FluffieDuckie posted:These are good. I'd maybe add in there not to spring their friends from longer probes by giving them 6ers. I think that's covered by not fuckign with other mods actions. edit: still might be good to put in ". . . for example, jailbreaking a user from a longer probe with a sixer" because that's easily been the biggest IK problem we've had.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 15:38 |
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Just want to pop in an say I find it fantastic that lowtax popped into the Fyad refugee camp simultaneously with me bowing out. He seems to be doing well given all the shit that he has going on.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 20:15 |
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Yeah lowtax reached out to me tonight about fyad - the rules he's asking for are no bigotry, nothing hateful, and "don't let mod sass get too personal". I think that is a reasonably vague line that the mod will have to draw the line on, but it shouldn't be too hard.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 21:23 |
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I'm fine with intentionally vague rules, barring the whole bigotry one, natch. Why? Because with vague rules you can probate for clear violations of the spirit with it. With clearly defined rules, you know exactly what's going to happen: toeing the line with the intention of being an ass.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 21:26 |
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Yeah lowtax reached out to me tonight about fyad - the rules he's asking for are no bigotry, nothing hateful, and "don't let mod sass get too personal". I think that is a reasonably vague line that the mod will have to draw the line on, but it shouldn't be too hard. Can he put those in a bullet itemed list? I mean you can do your best but I’d think it best from him. If possible to lend credence, this will be a land shift. Idk how this is going to go down man. Wait, I do. Do it when he’s around btw like now.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 21:34 |
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That was more how he worded them to me, not how I'd state them in a rules thread - I think "too personal" is vague, specifically. The no bigotry rule will be extremely straightforward.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 21:48 |
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I’m less worried about mod sass, a codified rule already, and more chasing down others in non Fyad forums tbh. The “ recent” rule seems good to me. Don’t go through months of posts for Christ sake you weenies. (Coming from a mod that was chased down)
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 21:58 |
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To be clear I think shit about your kids is textbook "too personal", and KM owning a piano would be the same.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2019 22:17 |
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Summary of some points I made in discord: Pog would be a good candidate for second fyad mod We need to clean house in the mod forum for our own security It should be an established expectation that fyad mods (and really all active mods) check the mod forum, post there occasionally, etc. So we avoid a repeat of Jack Daniels just kind of ignoring us for so long.
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| # ? Dec 22, 2019 19:56 |
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| # ? Dec 22, 2019 20:48 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:I have misgivings about this, but admittedly only from what I've seen of him in QCS. Pog was a poor choice of QCS moderation partly because he decided to become The Voice of Good Moderation and start effectively speaking for people, and partly because he was only IK so he couldn’t ask us about anything. Also QCS has more fundamental issues with the way it’s currently set up and the fact that it has regulars or a “forum culture” is a failure imo. For FYAD, he’s basically ideal as a mod for them imo.
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| # ? Dec 22, 2019 20:49 |
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Big thing to keep in mind: Outsiders will be watching like hawks. Expect a lot of reports. I personally feel that admins should review the reports after the mods have judged them, but that's me.
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| # ? Dec 22, 2019 20:51 |
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Cyrano4747 fucked around with this message at Dec 22, 2019 around 21:57 |
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Burt Sexual fucked around with this message at Dec 22, 2019 around 21:08 |
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FYAD is going to open on Tuesday
Jeffrey of YOSPOS fucked around with this message at Dec 22, 2019 around 22:19 |
| # ? Dec 22, 2019 21:06 |
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iospace posted:Big thing to keep in mind: Outsiders will be watching like hawks. Expect a lot of reports. I personally feel that admins should review the reports after the mods have judged them, but that's me.
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| # ? Dec 22, 2019 21:13 |
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:My plan is certainly not to reopen fyad and forget about it - I will at least be paying attention and plan on supporting the new fyad mods directly. When qqcs is reopened, we should get some prior notice? Have we even talked about how that’s gonna be handled bc there will be dozens of threads opened... I’ll stay the fuck away from the keys unless requested for assistance.
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| # ? Dec 22, 2019 21:19 |
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Burt Sexual posted:When qqcs is reopened, we should get some prior notice? Have we even talked about how that’s gonna be handled bc there will be dozens of threads opened... Lowtax has taken a keen interest in FYAD reopening, and none at all on QCS. So.....after. That's all I got.
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| # ? Dec 22, 2019 21:20 |
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Lowtax has taken a keen interest in FYAD reopening, and none at all on QCS. So.....after. That's all I got. That’s wat I guessed, nbd.
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| # ? Dec 22, 2019 21:22 |
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Are we done issuing the permas that need issuing? Do we have a statement we can give to the many people still looking for one? I've told some people "sit tight, we're on it" and I would very much like to have something further to tell them when our solution hits v1.0, so to speak.
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| # ? Dec 23, 2019 03:35 |
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as far as I’m aware there isn’t anybody that needed a perma outstanding, everybody else who didn’t reach the absolute shitbird criteria ate a ban and thirty. Would probably need to go back and look at the discussions from last week to double check though
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| # ? Dec 23, 2019 05:10 |
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Lightning Knight posted:Summary of some points I made in discord: hello, briefly glanced through this thread and saw this post. i have not really processed anything here nor do i have the time to until much later today but for posterity just chiming in to say that i have seen this post and intend to check the mod forum(and whatever this is)
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| # ? Dec 23, 2019 14:14 |
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:FYAD is going to open on Tuesday Wait for midnight and it can be a Christmas miracle!
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| # ? Dec 23, 2019 14:18 |
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after reviewing the posts, a common point of contention was that goonlulz was too specific and crossed over into harassment territory. this is something i personally have believed for months and have repeatedly called out other posters for in the past. not only do i agree with this rule, but one of the main things i wanted to do as a moderator was to specifically implement that, so i am glad we are on the same page on that. if we are making a new forumid(not sure if this is still the case, saw it in an earlier page..? mods???) i would like to request that specific megathreads be moved over to preserve the historicity of them. i am hardpressed to see why a thread for talking about anime, or coffee, or beer, should be purged and started anew. having those threads moved over would be a strong show of good faith if the argument is to make a new forumid.
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| # ? Dec 23, 2019 16:08 |
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Yeah I am fine with moving over some threads from the old one, mainly the thing I don't want is people bumping old threads and them getting lots of reports for stuff posted pre-closure. Better to have a relatively clean slate. All this started because night crew won the war so maybe that one should stay gone though. 
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